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A fact from Ellen Oliver (suffragette) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 27 May 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that suffragette Ellen Oliver recognised "daughter of God" Mabel Barltrop as the spiritual child of prophet Joanna Southcott?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/May. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ellen Oliver (suffragette).

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The result was: promoted by Launchballer talk 12:19, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ellen Oliver

... that suffragette Ellen Oliver (pictured) recognised that Mabel Barltrop was the spiritual child of Joanna Southcott? Source: "on Valentine's Day 1919 Ellen Oliver declared Barltrop to be 'Shiloh'" - Shiloh was the name given to Southcott's spiritual children https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=VhOMDwAAQBAJ&newbks=0&printsec=frontcover&pg=PA168&dq=ellen+oliver+bedford&hl=en&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=ellen%20oliver%20bedford&f=false
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nxdia

Created by Lajmmoore (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 96 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Lajmmoore (talk) 16:44, 21 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Great work on this article! Earwig highlighted a few words, but they just appear to be common words and phrases. Good to go! Kentuckian |💬 15:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I worry about this hook's WP:DYKINTerestingness, as it is entirely dependent on knowing its names (I only know of Joanna Southcott because I'm distantly related to her). What else have you got?--Laun chba ller 08:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lajmmoore and Kentuckian: ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:02, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The WP:DYKINTerestingness is not from the names mentioned. who are both notable, and Southcott is known to some (who are not related to her). The key phrase here is "spiritual child". If Miss X is the spiritual child of Miss Y .... then its intriguing. Adding "prophet" in front of Joanna would be better but I'm not sure "I'm (personally) not impressed" is a valid reason. If there is no offered alternative then this should proceed as approved IMO, no reason to stall it. Victuallers (talk) 10:55, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let's see an ALT to that effect.--Laun chba ller 22:41, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How about:

ALT1 ... that suffragette Ellen Oliver (pictured) recognised "daughter of God" Mabel Barltrop as the spiritual child of prophet Joanna Southcott? Source: "on Valentine's Day 1919 Ellen Oliver declared Barltrop to be 'Shiloh'" - Shiloh was the name given to Southcott's spiritual children https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=VhOMDwAAQBAJ&newbks=0&printsec=frontcover&pg=PA168&dq=ellen+oliver+bedford&hl=en&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=ellen%20oliver%20bedford&f=false

Thanks for patience, while I replied to this, i have had a very busy fortnight. Lajmmoore (talk) 09:04, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fine by me.--Laun chba ller 09:10, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]